Turbo Trans Am Forum

Go Back   Turbo Trans Am Forum > Turbo Trans Am Modifications > Engine Swap Chat
ALL NEW REGISTRY Register FAQ Members List Calendar vBGarage Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Engine Swap Chat Help one another with some tips and tricks on this highly talked about subject.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-28-2010
neilb neilb is offline
Junior Member
New User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Orillia
Age: 25
Posts: 2
Rep Power: 0
neilb is on a distinguished road
Turbo V6 swap. 1986 camaro

Hey everyone, a just discovered this forum the other day. The Turbo Trans am is what inspired me to do this swap and I thought I'd share with you my progress so far. let me know what you think, and any suggestions! thanks.

The car started out as a 2.8L sports coupe. I started with a bare 3.8L 109 block pulled from a olds cutlass. I purchased all the parts i needed and had Klots performance machine in Cambridge Ontario do the machine work, block is bored 30 over with speed pro hyperutectic pistons and has a compression ratio of 7.1:1. The heads are stock GN units that have been cleaned up. Cam is a comp cams set up spec'd at 215/215. Headers are cheap offshore knock offs from ebay. I'll get nicer ones when I can afford better. The turbo is a Turbonetics TE63 with a oil filter reloctation kit. The downpipe is a stock GN pipe that I modified to fit. The rest of the exhaust is a 2,3/4" dynomax cat back system. I used A 700R4 tranny with an adaptor plate from Jegs.
I still have a few things to get installed like some 42# injectors, ESC module, the proper MAF (thinking about the LS1 with translator), and some other minor things.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg now2.JPG (1.30 MB, 27 views)
File Type: jpg now1.JPG (1.32 MB, 23 views)
File Type: jpg 3.81.JPG (1.29 MB, 51 views)
File Type: jpg 3.82.JPG (1.28 MB, 44 views)
File Type: jpg 3.83.JPG (1.34 MB, 42 views)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-28-2010
Rodimus_Prime's Avatar
Rodimus_Prime Rodimus_Prime is offline
Senior Member
SuperUser
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Harrisburg, PA
Age: 29
Posts: 620
Rep Power: 64
Rodimus_Prime is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to Rodimus_Prime Send a message via Yahoo to Rodimus_Prime
Re: Turbo V6 swap. 1986 camaro

hrmm interesting project car
__________________

1989 Turbo Trans Am #82
2007 Cobalt SS G85, Harrop 1320LSJ 75MM, 298hp 254tq
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-28-2010
PhillyTurboSix's Avatar
PhillyTurboSix PhillyTurboSix is offline
Administrator
AdministratorSuperUser
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Age: 42
Posts: 2,028
Rep Power: 10
PhillyTurboSix has disabled reputation
Send a message via AIM to PhillyTurboSix
Re: Turbo V6 swap. 1986 camaro

Looking good! Should be a nice sleeper! What are your goals for the car? What boost are you going to run? What trans and rear? Just be careful with those hyper pistons! You might want to bump up your injectors a touch. Hypers are not happy when you zap them with any denotation! Looking forward to see how it turns out!
__________________
Jim from Philly
*1989 Pontiac Turbo Trans AM. 30K original miles. All stock other then battery and tires. Car #396 T-tops Leather with matching die-cast! Featured in Hemmings Muscle Machines. Feb. 06 issue #29

*1986 Buick Grand National CF5 car. Stock
*1987 Buick Grand National CC1 car. All the typical go fast mods. Everything rebuilt with Alky!

Turbo Tweak chips in ALL my cars!

BPG Board of Directors Member #2050 Join now! http://www.buickperformancegroup.com/

GSCA member #5314

Get your TTA gear here.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/phillyt...7621458502124/



Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-28-2010
Mike Arrigo's Avatar
Mike Arrigo Mike Arrigo is offline
VTurbo8
Mild User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Schaumburg, Illinois
Posts: 147
Rep Power: 18
Mike Arrigo is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Yahoo to Mike Arrigo
Re: Turbo V6 swap. 1986 camaro

Hey, looks like you are trying to build my old car that I had. Mine had as much stuff from the TTA as we could put on it, even the dash, steering wheel, rear end and front brakes. I will have to try and see what that VIN number was for the doner car, I have it in my files some where.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg n1141978158_190619_609.jpg (70.6 KB, 26 views)
File Type: jpg n1141978158_190611_6159.jpg (60.1 KB, 22 views)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-28-2010
tta299's Avatar
tta299 tta299 is offline
White Car Fever
SuperUser
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: South Carolina
Age: 29
Posts: 415
Rep Power: 0
tta299 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Turbo V6 swap. 1986 camaro

I think u need more injector man and a real TTA woul have been cheaper. sorry to be the barron of bad news but i thought it over
__________________
89 TTA #299 34k Miles stock * Vanna White *
89 TTA # 1397 70GTQBB acouple bolton's Razor's dual nozzle Alky and xtra hoses
89 TTA # unknown lowest miles... never assembled or battery installed .. pedalcar
87 GN 6768DBB billet turbo stock unopend longblock 10.97 Razor's dual Alky
99 SS Camaro #405 21k miles vert m6 white on white 1 of 365 6 speed verts
06 Trail Blazer SS 13.88 grocery getter
64 SS Impala 327 fac a/c p/s tilt wheel fac tac 2 speed pg High school DD
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...1d747e436f.htm


Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-28-2010
Quiky One Quiky One is offline
Senior Member
SuperUser
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Rogers, Arkansas
Age: 19
Posts: 51,132
Rep Power: 5117
Quiky One will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to Quiky One
Re: Turbo V6 swap. 1986 camaro

Great project man!!

Are you sure the compression is 7:1? That seems awfully low!

What fuel system are you going to run?

BTW, it looks like your MAF pipe os 3". In that case, run the LT1 maf. LT1=3" LS1=3.5". FYI.

Keep us updated!

Jason
__________________
-Jason

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-29-2010
Black Shepherds & Turbo's's Avatar
Black Shepherds & Turbo's Black Shepherds & Turbo's is offline
jp112_89
SuperUser
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: USA
Age: 36
Posts: 353
Rep Power: 38
Black Shepherds & Turbo's is on a distinguished road
Re: Turbo V6 swap. 1986 camaro

Neat project. Good luck!
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-29-2010
RatFink's Avatar
RatFink RatFink is offline
TORQUE
SuperUser
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Nashville Tennessee
Age: 37
Posts: 1,434
Rep Power: 147
RatFink will become famous soon enough
Re: Turbo V6 swap. 1986 camaro

Gotta love the turbo swap cars! Keep us updated.
__________________
89 TTA -first owner, 34k miles.
www.my89turbotransam.com








Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-29-2010
92conv's Avatar
92conv 92conv is offline
Senior Member
PowerUser
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Holland, Mi
Age: 39
Posts: 212
Rep Power: 24
92conv is on a distinguished road
Re: Turbo V6 swap. 1986 camaro

Cool project!!
__________________




West Michigan Firebird Club
www.wmfirebird.com
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-29-2010
echostatic echostatic is offline
Turbooo
SuperUser
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 614
Rep Power: 65
echostatic is on a distinguished road
Re: Turbo V6 swap. 1986 camaro

Who cares if a TTA would be cheaper, his project is cool. I'm curious though, why didn't you go with forged pistons?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-30-2010
neilb neilb is offline
Junior Member
New User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Orillia
Age: 25
Posts: 2
Rep Power: 0
neilb is on a distinguished road
Re: Turbo V6 swap. 1986 camaro

Thanks everyone, I'm not really sure whay boost I'm gonna run, This is my first experience with a turbo setup, What boost is good to start at? I'm going with the 42# injectors because that's what the company who did the computer chip told me to use. If I use larger injectors will it still work with the chip? And whats the difference between high and low impedance? Yes, the intake is 3" tubing, I'm leaning towards the LS1 with the translator. The factory MAF are getting harder to find everyday. I bought a complete engine rebuild kit from Summit racing.com that came with the hyper pistons. I was poorly informed about te strength of those pistons until after the engine was assembled. I'll use them til something gives up. The trans is a 700R4, and the rear is a the stock camaro unit with 3.42s. I will be upgrading to a 9inch or a 4thGen rear when the money is there. I'm sure a real TTA would have been cheaper, but 'm having a great time building this, learned alot, and looking forward to driving something other than a 350 camaro. Not too much progress on the car lately, I've done some more body work, and cleaned up the engine bay a bit more. My fiance says I have to save my money for the wedding or something, haha. I just discovered a speed shop in my area (Modfathers in Orillia Ontario) so saving money might be harder for me now, haha.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-30-2010
Quiky One Quiky One is offline
Senior Member
SuperUser
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Rogers, Arkansas
Age: 19
Posts: 51,132
Rep Power: 5117
Quiky One will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to Quiky One
Re: Turbo V6 swap. 1986 camaro

Quote:
Originally Posted by neilb View Post
Thanks everyone, I'm not really sure whay boost I'm gonna run, This is my first experience with a turbo setup, What boost is good to start at? I'm going with the 42# injectors because that's what the company who did the computer chip told me to use. If I use larger injectors will it still work with the chip? And whats the difference between high and low impedance? Yes, the intake is 3" tubing, I'm leaning towards the LS1 with the translator. The factory MAF are getting harder to find everyday. I bought a complete engine rebuild kit from Summit racing.com that came with the hyper pistons. I was poorly informed about te strength of those pistons until after the engine was assembled. I'll use them til something gives up. The trans is a 700R4, and the rear is a the stock camaro unit with 3.42s. I will be upgrading to a 9inch or a 4thGen rear when the money is there. I'm sure a real TTA would have been cheaper, but 'm having a great time building this, learned alot, and looking forward to driving something other than a 350 camaro. Not too much progress on the car lately, I've done some more body work, and cleaned up the engine bay a bit more. My fiance says I have to save my money for the wedding or something, haha. I just discovered a speed shop in my area (Modfathers in Orillia Ontario) so saving money might be harder for me now, haha.
Who did your chip? And no, a 42lb chip will not work with any other injectors. I would strongly recommend looking at a TurboTweak Home chip. You might have used him and he is the best...

Stick with the high impedance injectors. Low impedance (AKA low Z) injectors require a modified ECM. With todays technology, the high impedance injectors work just fine. They make 80 lb. high injectors.

If your intake tube is 3" use the LT1 MAF. If your intake tube is 3.5" use the LS1 MAF.

Otherwise, looks like you have your bases covered!
__________________
-Jason

Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-16-2010
tta299's Avatar
tta299 tta299 is offline
White Car Fever
SuperUser
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: South Carolina
Age: 29
Posts: 415
Rep Power: 0
tta299 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Turbo V6 swap. 1986 camaro

if you have enuff to need low impedence they work just fine too ... My car idles fine with 84# inj and a 212/212 roller
__________________
89 TTA #299 34k Miles stock * Vanna White *
89 TTA # 1397 70GTQBB acouple bolton's Razor's dual nozzle Alky and xtra hoses
89 TTA # unknown lowest miles... never assembled or battery installed .. pedalcar
87 GN 6768DBB billet turbo stock unopend longblock 10.97 Razor's dual Alky
99 SS Camaro #405 21k miles vert m6 white on white 1 of 365 6 speed verts
06 Trail Blazer SS 13.88 grocery getter
64 SS Impala 327 fac a/c p/s tilt wheel fac tac 2 speed pg High school DD
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...1d747e436f.htm


Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-16-2010
tta299's Avatar
tta299 tta299 is offline
White Car Fever
SuperUser
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: South Carolina
Age: 29
Posts: 415
Rep Power: 0
tta299 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Turbo V6 swap. 1986 camaro

Quote:
Originally Posted by echostatic View Post
Who cares if a TTA would be cheaper, his project is cool. I'm curious though, why didn't you go with forged pistons?
cheaper means alot to me right now ... im building a house ... time is money .... i didnt say his project wasnt cool. Id love to have a regal front end grafted on an elcamino with a GN interior an engine but it takes alot of time and money.
__________________
89 TTA #299 34k Miles stock * Vanna White *
89 TTA # 1397 70GTQBB acouple bolton's Razor's dual nozzle Alky and xtra hoses
89 TTA # unknown lowest miles... never assembled or battery installed .. pedalcar
87 GN 6768DBB billet turbo stock unopend longblock 10.97 Razor's dual Alky
99 SS Camaro #405 21k miles vert m6 white on white 1 of 365 6 speed verts
06 Trail Blazer SS 13.88 grocery getter
64 SS Impala 327 fac a/c p/s tilt wheel fac tac 2 speed pg High school DD
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...1d747e436f.htm


Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-29-2010
Street Lethal Street Lethal is offline
Junior Member
New User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Old Bridge, Raceway Park N.J.
Posts: 1
Rep Power: 0
Street Lethal is on a distinguished road
Re: Turbo V6 swap. 1986 camaro

Quote:
Originally Posted by neilb
I used A 700R4 tranny with an adaptor plate from Jegs....


.... was this the 700R4 that came with the stock 2.8????
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:41 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
2000 - 2010 TurboTransAm.com