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WTF: What is the Value of a TTA.....

Kman1971

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I was going to post in response to the Mecum Festival Car post, but didn't want to hijack his thread...so I decided to start a new thread and discussion...and I am sure you all are as fired up and confused about this as me...

I have really gotten into the collector car arena and auctions the last couple years with Velocity and Speed Channel and the Mecum and Barrett-Jackson Auctions and the Market on this car is just mind numbing.

The TTA is arguably the fastest, best driving, most rare Trans Am ever produced by Pontiac. Of all the American cars produced in the 80's, next to the GNX, it is probably the best muscle car GM produced. OK that is not too much to brag about from the 80's, but the car performs (and out performs most) and gets just as good gas mileage or better then the high horse power cars produced today., yet it barely draws $11.5K yesterday at Mecum??? WTF!!!!!!!!!!! The last auction, a mass produced Monte Carlo Super Slow from back in the late 80's sells for $15k + and my car at a car show last summer in my 80's class where there were only about 4 out of 200 cars from the 80's, lost to an ugly, beat up, super slow 85 Hurst Olds..... AGAIN...Where is my WTF button....:explosion:


Two things come to mind why these cars just don't get the respect they deserve....

1... People just don't know what they are and assume they are a normal GTA from the 80's, even though you don't hardly see any of those left on the road either....

2... it just seems to go back to even though there were only 1550 of these cars produced, there are always about 10 for sale...and sell for $10K to $15K.... Just in the last two weeks, it seems about 10 more have popped up for sale....definitely a buyers market....

Every time I am out in mine or at a car show, I get probably no less than three compliments and people comment on the look or even actually have a story about the car or knew someone who had one.... which seems to go directly against my two statements above...

Now my cars are driven and are not museum or top show cars, one is a mostly stock(bought for $13K) and the other is mostly modified(bought for $4k), but even with that said, to me I will not sell either car for no less than $15K at this point.... good thing I am not selling because it doesn't appear I could get that for either one. My first one I bought in 89 at sticker price was $31K and got every penny out of it and sold it in 91 when I got married with 60K+ mileage on it, driven hard, but still looked good for $11K.... I thought the guy was getting it a steal, but I was desperate to sell it....so maybe I have myself to blame for the market on these cars....

Bottom line, a car is only worth what a person is willing to pay for it.... and cars are meant to be driven....so enjoy these TTA's while you can....get them out on the road and to the shows to increase their appeal and value.

If you are going to sell one of these and want top dollar, then take it to the Barrett-Jackson Auction in Scottsdale in January. People there definitely go there to buy a car and get caught up in the auction frenzy. A Salvaged Titled TTA sold for $20K+ last year....need I say more????

If you want to buy a TTA at a value, just do an internet search and make a low ball offer, chances are in this economy, a desperate seller will take the offer if they need a quick $5k to $10K in a pinch like I did before... sad times for sure for a seller....DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am anxious to hear what my fellow TTA enthusiasts have to say on this topic....
 
Market is soft for this generation TA. But everything goes in cycles.


I didn't buy mine to resell it or for an investment.


I knew I was buying the baddest TA in history.


Joe
 
Market is soft for this generation TA. But everything goes in cycles.


I didn't buy mine to resell it or for an investment.


I knew I was buying the baddest TA in history.


Joe


X2, I will have to agree with Joe! And these cars are a blast to drive and own. I just love to drive my TTA maybe once a week and really enjoy it!:beach:
 
I have to agree aswell. I always wanted to get a TTA, but could never really afford one, Life situations. But now is a buyers market, dont sell unless you really, really, really, need the $$$!
It sucks for the TTA, the only v-6 TA produced, the fastest stock TA made, and no mods to pace the race. Only problem economy, and maybe wrong decade made 80's sucked for cars.
But buy them now and restore them, and collect them, life recycles, they'll go up in value again, but might be awhile. :burnrubber:
 
This car looked exceptionally good under the lights and constantly had "lookers" around it. I knew the market was soft, but it seems to me the market on these TTA's is exceptionally so. Seems 10 years ago, a similar mileage Grand National would bring 2/3 of what a similar mileage TTA would bring....the GNs seem to be holding steady, but these cars are falling. Not sure why, other than most people don't even know they exist.

On the way back from Dallas, I was wondering why the GNX with 50k miles is prolly a $45k car and a TTA with 50k miles struggles to break $15k? I know they made 1000 more of the TTAs, but still the spread seems WAY too wide.

FYI....I do not think the fact that this was a Festival car nor the rare cloth interior helped it any at the auction. If anything, to the uneducated buyer, the cloth seats were a negative, as compared to leather.The late Saturday slot ($500 entry fee), was not good for this car. I think it would have fared better mid-day Thursday ($250 entry fee). Anyway, this was a learning experience and won't be my last time to bring a car to a collector car auction. I can say, for a $15 entry, you could not attend a better car show....acres of cars and a fun atmosphere.
 
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The 80's were defined by a lot of things-drugs, partying, non safe sex, wild times, etc. The cars built were not respected then and now still struggle to be taken seriously by the muscle heads.

I think the TTA is a relatively unknown car. If people really knew how rare and well built it was for its time, it would probably sell for more money.

With that said, I would guess that most people here that own one, did not buy to re sell and make some cash. We all love our cars and enjoy driving them.

I dont get caught up in "what its worth" to others. I probably paid a little to much for mine at the time, but it needed little and was 2 hours away. I have no regrets. When it comes to cars, I like owning the non popular types.
 
All i got to say is if value's don't rise to what i believe they should be then my grandaughter will be a very happy young lady some day...:dance:also there is no doubt there is a ton of people here that are willing to help new people with problem's and question's, in the end that helps everyone here... just a thought....:)
 
We could start to bring cars to auction with super high reserves and bid up to but not over it. Like the 1.1 million dollar 69 T/A conv. no sale.
 
Damn - 500 dollar entrance fee plus 10% commission if it sells - Mecum gets you coming and going.
These cars will go up in value eventually. Maybe not any time soon. If you can hold out on selling the would probably be your best bet. One day, thirdgens will get the respect they deserve. There are too many desperate sellers out there willing to let super low mileage cars go for a song. I wish I had the room to keep another one. I would buy a car with almost no miles and just put it in storage.
 
Entrance fee varies from $250 to $1000 based on day and position. Sellers commision is 7% if you have a reserve and 5% if no reserve. I would equate the amount of employees and equipment required for this event equal to that of a rock concert. I don't know what their "break even" point is, but I would assume in the upper hundreds of thousands.
 
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When it comes to cars, I like owning the non popular types.

+1. I wouldn't mind owning a DeLorean, even if the drivetrain was a dog for performance. They were lucky to get to 88 mph.

I'd dig a 87-88 Callaway Corvette too.

I love the 80's though :headbang:
 
+1. I wouldn't mind owning a DeLorean, even if the drivetrain was a dog for performance. They were lucky to get to 88 mph.

I'd dig a 87-88 Callaway Corvette too.

I love the 80's though :headbang:
Don't tell me you still have a mullet !...:eeks:...:rofl:
 
They didn't make an 85 Hurst Olds. 80's cars really don't get any respect so we might as well drive them. I'm just happy that they aren't worthless like the majority of the cars made in the 80's
KID
 
They didn't make an 85 Hurst Olds. 80's cars really don't get any respect so we might as well drive them. I'm just happy that they aren't worthless like the majority of the cars made in the 80's
KID
 
Well it doesn't appear that GN prices are much better. Watched a couple of low mile (less than 10k and one less than 5k miles) and neither went over $22k on eBay, pathetic. When I put up my tta for sale it was one of the higher priced cars, but a quick search now seems it is one of the lower priced ones of comparable condition and miles. Seems that those selling and sticking to their prices are helping the market some. I don't need the $$ just the room so I'm sticking closely to my price till the market meets it. I have a few other cars up for sale too now so when one sells and frees up the space the others may come off the market.
 
Well it doesn't appear that GN prices are much better. Watched a couple of low mile (less than 10k and one less than 5k miles) and neither went over $22k on eBay, pathetic. When I put up my tta for sale it was one of the higher priced cars, but a quick search now seems it is one of the lower priced ones of comparable condition and miles. Seems that those selling and sticking to their prices are helping the market some. I don't need the $$ just the room so I'm sticking closely to my price till the market meets it. I have a few other cars up for sale too now so when one sells and frees up the space the others may come off the market.
The whole market suck's right now for any car (or house), do i need the money?, no, could i use the money?, of course but i will mothball both car's before i give either one away... this economy is all about perception, it will be bad untill people perceive otherwise...:wall:
 
There was a 6,xxx mle GN that went through a few cars before mine and sold for $27k......it was a gorgeous car. There was a 5x,xxx mile 86GN that bid up to $12.5k, but did not sell. It was in, I'd say, VG condition.
 
I still get a lot of nice comments about the shape and style of the 3rd Gen TA/Camaro. Many like our style better than 4th Gen TA's/Camaro's or 5th Gen Camaro.

Joe
 
I still get a lot of nice comments about the shape and style of the 3rd Gen TA/Camaro. Many like our style better than 4th Gen TA's/Camaro's or 5th Gen Camaro.

Joe


Joe I have to agree there, alot of people like the 3rd gen TA/Camaro, and know the body style pretty good, but they dont know the TTA. I love the 3rd gen, and still cant believe I got a TTA now. But I must say the 77-78 T/A SE Bandit is sexxxy!
 
RatFink;49969 I love the 80's though :headbang:[/QUOTE said:
Couldn't have said it better!


Chris
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