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oil change

dtridente

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I want to change my oil and put Royal Purple in. But I dont know what I have in there now. (It hasn't been changed since I bought it in Nov) Is there anything I should do to make sure I get all of the old oil out of the turbo? This sounds like a dumb question, and Im sure Im over thinking this. I work on Cadillacs and can take a 2000 and up DeVille apart with my eyes close but When it comes to my own car especially this one I want to be 100% positive of everything. Thanks
 
Not much you can do but drain it and fill it. Fill the filter with oil, but you know that...
 
if the car has been sittin for winter most of the oil has probably drained down as good as you're gunna get it. You're never gunna get all the old oil out unless you're completely rebuilding it. Even with a little bit of old oil in there you won't have to worry about it because it'll be such a small amount in comparison to the new oil.
 
ChrisKober said:
Not much you can do but drain it and fill it. Fill the filter with oil, but you know that...

I know soo many people who say to do that, but I don't think it makes a difference. Yeah the motor goes without oil for a couple milliseconds longer but if you let the car sit for a week you run into the same problem. We've never done it and our Escort was still running strong at 150k miles.
 
72firebird said:
I know soo many people who say to do that, but I don't think it makes a difference. Yeah the motor goes without oil for a couple milliseconds longer but if you let the car sit for a week you run into the same problem. We've never done it and our Escort was still running strong at 150k miles.
Try a couple seconds, and that is a long time....Try running with no cartilage....yeah grind grind grind...That would feel awesome...Anywat you are also wrong about the oil filtering out of the filter. If you change your oil, you notice that the filter is always full of oil even after sitting for months...It is a simple task that makes it easier on the motor...almost ignorant not too...off my soapbox..

Jason
 
Quiky One said:
Try a couple seconds, and that is a long time....Try running with no cartilage....yeah grind grind grind...That would feel awesome...Anywat you are also wrong about the oil filtering out of the filter. If you change your oil, you notice that the filter is always full of oil even after sitting for months...It is a simple task that makes it easier on the motor...almost ignorant not too...off my soapbox..

Jason

the only difference between putting oil in the filter and not putting oil in the filter is a mere 250mL at most, so you're talking about milliseconds. Plus the amount of oil that you add isn't even 250mL and that's the only amount you're compensating for, so basically you did the work of the pump moving about 100mL of oil which would take it less than a half a second. Also there's lots of things that are hard on the motor like cold starts that people just seem to forget about. I guess everyone should put a block heater on their cars.
 
72firebird said:
the only difference between putting oil in the filter and not putting oil in the filter is a mere 250mL at most, so you're talking about milliseconds. Plus the amount of oil that you add isn't even 250mL and that's the only amount you're compensating for, so basically you did the work of the pump moving about 100mL of oil which would take it less than a half a second. Also there's lots of things that are hard on the motor like cold starts that people just seem to forget about. I guess everyone should put a block heater on their cars.
Cold starts? Heated garages rule! I won't hijack his thread, but I just disagree with you. It is such an easy step, why not do it? And the lines have to fill also...Couple seconds not milliseconds.

Jason
 
Quiky One said:
Cold starts? Heated garages rule! I won't hijack his thread, but I just disagree with you. It is such an easy step, why not do it? And the lines have to fill also...Couple seconds not milliseconds.

Jason

no this is a good topic, and I think a misconception by many. The only difference in you adding the oil to the filter and me not adding it is the volume you add to the filter. With the amount that most people add which is about 1/4-1/2 of the oil filter the oil pump will pump that amount in less than 1/4 of a second. You have no advantage to filling the lines or anything, everything will just happen that less than 1/4 of a second that you gain from putting the oil in the filter. The pump will start pumping, filling everything until it gets to the oil filter which is when it will pick up that less than a 1/4 of a second ahead and will just stay that far ahead through the rest of the process. Your car goes through much more abuse.
 
Quiky One said:
Cold starts? Heated garages rule! I won't hijack his thread, but I just disagree with you. It is such an easy step, why not do it? And the lines have to fill also...Couple seconds not milliseconds.

Jason

I agree with you on this one. :)
 
One thing I do every time I start the TTA (when it hasn't been started in a day or more) is disconnect the ECM wire and crank the car till I see the oil pressure gauge show pressure. This is also something you can do when you change the oil rather then putting oil in the filter you'll just have to crank a few extra times to get it filled and have pressure. I'll put a little bit in the filter when I'm putting it back on but that's about it.
 
PhillyTurboSix said:
One thing I do every time I start the TTA (when it hasn't been started in a day or more) is disconnect the ECM wire and crank the car till I see the oil pressure gauge show pressure. This is also something you can do when you change the oil rather then putting oil in the filter you'll just have to crank a few extra times to get it filled and have pressure. I'll put a little bit in the filter when I'm putting it back on but that's about it.
Way to much work...:jaw:
 
72firebird said:
the only difference between putting oil in the filter and not putting oil in the filter is a mere 250mL at most, so you're talking about milliseconds. Plus the amount of oil that you add isn't even 250mL and that's the only amount you're compensating for, so basically you did the work of the pump moving about 100mL of oil which would take it less than a half a second. Also there's lots of things that are hard on the motor like cold starts that people just seem to forget about. I guess everyone should put a block heater on their cars.


Block Heater....good idea really. Clearly PAS thought enough of the idea to install one on the TTA DCV. The DCV sat in the shop at Triad for weeks on end and I would suppose that in the winter months the Block Heater was used. TTA owners are welcome to visit if you are in the Atlanta area, see the block heater first hand.

Rich
 
Quiky One said:
Have some pics Rich? Sounds interesting!

Jason

Let me know if you are ever in the Atlanta area and you can see the installation in person. A picture will only show the electrical cord.

Rich
 
Quiky One said:
Have some pics Rich? Sounds interesting!

Jason

There's nothing to them. All you do in knock out a frost plug in the side of the engine block and install the block heater, which is nothing more than a frost plug with a heating element on it........so that when it's plugged in, it keeps the coolant in the engine block warm. Most vehicles in cold climates have them.
 
89MNTTA said:
There's nothing to them. All you do in knock out a frost plug in the side of the engine block and install the block heater, which is nothing more than a frost plug with a heating element on it........so that when it's plugged in, it keeps the coolant in the engine block warm. Most vehicles in cold climates have them.
Lol I know what a block heater is but I wanted to see how they installed it on the transams.
 
Quiky One said:
Lol I know what a block heater is but I wanted to see how they installed it on the transams.

Don't kill the messenger! :lol: Trust me, there are a lot of people that don't have a clue! (for one reason or another)
 
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