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What did your TTA sell for when new?

kidsixpack

kidsixpack

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This was brought up on another post, but I thought it would get noticed here more. If you have any paperwork on your car what the original owner pay for it.
Here's what I posted in the other thread:
Wow this is really interesting. My car was purchased at Art Moran Pontiac GMC Southfield Mi on November 6, 1989 purchase price of vehicle $24,492 plus $8.00 service fee with a total taxable cost of $24,500. $25,485 with taxes. It doesn't say anything about an employee discount or anything. The window sticker is $31,223.00. He paid cash for the car. I purchased the car from the original owners son with all the paperwork.
KID
 
says 31k on my window sticker 31,223.00 @ larry Faul pontiac inc 100w golf road Schaumburg , Il

Steve libertore was the salesman
 
Nobody knows what their car sold for new? I thought this would be of more interest to people?DontKnow:
KID
 
I just have the window sticker. i don't know what the original owner actually paid for it.
 
Same here. Have original window sticker and 2 reproductions. Auto Check says my car is a ONE OWNER . I didn't buy it new and the owner before me did not also. Auto Check also shows it has a high overall score. Higher than most of the other TTA's I have saw on e-bay.
 
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8289ta said:
I just have the window sticker. i don't know what the original owner actually paid for it.
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I'm sure that this is the most common answer. By the time these cars were built car the car hobby was well underway and papertrails had already proven to be a great addition to any collector car. I know that most of the TTA's were purchased as toys and figured that there would be lots of stuff out there.
KID
 
TTA984 said:
Same here. Have original window sticker and 2 reproductions. Auto Check says my car is a ONE OWNER . I didn't buy it new and the owner before me did not also. Auto Check also shows it has a high overall score. Higher than most of the other TTA's I have saw on e-bay.
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My repro window sticker says $31,223 also. Dont know what the orig owner actually paid, but 1st title was issued on 12-21-89, in Houston, Texas. Sounds like someone got a nice Christmas present!! Auto check is not always accurate. It stated my car had accident or damage reported. Carfax was clean. Apparently a trans am was involved in an accident, but it was blue. Police came to PO and had to fill out a report, but that particular car was not involved. It really wasnt an issue with me and I dont lose any sleep over it.:)
 
paid a premium of $3677.00 over full sticker on May 24, 1989. It is listed as a "Adjusted market value for special 20th anniversary Indianapolis 500 Pace Car conversion by PAS Inc. Troy Michigan". A total Price of $34,900 plus tax and dealer prep etc...
 
I paid window sticker for mine as well, back in April 1st, 1989.
Had to finance it, as the $26,000 I put down in November of 1988 didn't pay for the whole thing.
I'm sure I've paid over 50 grand, with all the intrest. ;)

George :beach:
 
kidsixpack said:
This was brought up on another post, but I thought it would get noticed here more. If you have any paperwork on your car what the original owner pay for it.
Here's what I posted in the other thread:
Wow this is really interesting. My car was purchased at Art Moran Pontiac GMC Southfield Mi on November 6, 1989 purchase price of vehicle $24,492 plus $8.00 service fee with a total taxable cost of $24,500. $25,485 with taxes. It doesn't say anything about an employee discount or anything. The window sticker is $31,223.00. He paid cash for the car. I purchased the car from the original owners son with all the paperwork.
KID
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Hi there KID,

I paid 29K for 1231. I bought it at Leo Jarnigon Pontiac in Houston in Feb. 1990. When I picked it up they had it on the show room floor with a red carpet laid out so I could drive it out through the double glass doors with customers watching. At this point I was looking for the vasoline. I had a friend with me and he kept saying "don't F*** UP Frank". 5 minutes later he ways yelling "I wanted you to by a vette! Slow this damn thing down!". In about 10 minutes he was yelling "I see a bar up there! I need a drink!" Honestly, I didn't understand that! He's not Irish.
 
I have had 4 tta's. My 1st and 4th ones were noteworthy.

#1.
One was sold brand new in june 1991 for $24,000. It was a t-top leather model that hadn't sold because of a foolish dealer that wanted thousands more than sticker, then the depression came, and demand declined.

#4)
My convert cost a total of $50,000. I have the receipt. I don't remember the breakdown exactly, but it was $8000 for the convertible option, $32,000 for the car, plus some more money for an extended warranty, taxes, and interest I guess. Interesting thing about the convert is that it was not ordered special by a customer. It was ordered by the dealer on spec, as part of a deal with pontiac, in which pontiac would allow the dealer to sell 2 tta's instead of just one, but only if they agreed to have a convertible built. In other words, the dealer's allotment was only going to be one tta. But it was early in the year and he wanted more, and for some reason pontiac corp wanted a convert to get built, and they got this dealer to order it and have it built on spec with no customer in mind. This was the first convertible built.
(a $50,000 firebird is a risky thing to have built when firebirds were selling for less than $10,000 brand new) As it turned out, it sold at 9am the first day of the advertisement. Maybe the depression hadn't hit yet and the roaring 80's were still in effect. Remember the Ferrari's? People were buying them new, using them and then doubling their money?

Another funny thing is that the other tta that the dealer sold was bought by the same customer as the convert. Imagine spending $85 to $90k on new TTA's from the same dealer in the same couple months.

#2)
Sold for sticker price
#3)
Sold for sticker price
 
andre#4 said:
I have had 4 tta's. My 1st and 4th ones were noteworthy.

#1.
One was sold brand new in june 1991 for $24,000. It was a t-top leather model that hadn't sold because of a foolish dealer that wanted thousands more than sticker, then the depression came, and demand declined.

#4)
My convert cost a total of $50,000. I have the receipt. I don't remember the breakdown exactly, but it was $8000 for the convertible option, $32,000 for the car, plus some more money for an extended warranty, taxes, and interest I guess. Interesting thing about the convert is that it was not ordered special by a customer. It was ordered by the dealer on spec, as part of a deal with pontiac, in which pontiac would allow the dealer to sell 2 tta's instead of just one, but only if they agreed to have a convertible built. In other words, the dealer's allotment was only going to be one tta. But it was early in the year and he wanted more, and for some reason pontiac corp wanted a convert to get built, and they got this dealer to order it and have it built on spec with no customer in mind. This was the first convertible built.
(a $50,000 firebird is a risky thing to have built when firebirds were selling for less than $10,000 brand new) As it turned out, it sold at 9am the first day of the advertisement. Maybe the depression hadn't hit yet and the roaring 80's were still in effect. Remember the Ferrari's? People were buying them new, using them and then doubling their money?

Another funny thing is that the other tta that the dealer sold was bought by the same customer as the convert. Imagine spending $85 to $90k on new TTA's from the same dealer in the same couple months.

#2)
Sold for sticker price
#3)
Sold for sticker price
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Wow I wonder if my car could have been one of your old cars, it was sold new in Trenton NJ at Cathcart Pontiac. T-Tops and Leather.
 
None of mine came from NJ...mine were from:

1)florida(one of my lemon ones that got ruined by mechanics) paid: $12k @60k mi

2)north carolina (retired track queen and lemon) paid: $14k @12k mi

3)ohio (the brand new one I bought when it was 6 years old, my baby. 240k mi with no mechanics and no problems. god I loved that car. consumers ruined it in parking lots so I let it go) paid: $16k @3k mi.

4)california(the ragtop) paid: one left side testicle and part of my liver @9k mi

that's why my name is andre#4. Made it up when looking for car #4 and couldn't think of any other name.
 
kidsixpack said:
This was brought up on another post, but I thought it would get noticed here more. If you have any paperwork on your car what the original owner pay for it.
Here's what I posted in the other thread:
Wow this is really interesting. My car was purchased at Art Moran Pontiac GMC Southfield Mi on November 6, 1989 purchase price of vehicle $24,492 plus $8.00 service fee with a total taxable cost of $24,500. $25,485 with taxes. It doesn't say anything about an employee discount or anything. The window sticker is $31,223.00. He paid cash for the car. I purchased the car from the original owners son with all the paperwork.
KID
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I thought Jan would step in on this but, these cars were going for over 40K when they were first put on the market. The dealers were trying to capitalize on the car but it didn't work. I could have bought a Ferrari for that much. These cars were not marketed well all and there was no plebiscite save a few magazine stories.
I'll jump on my soap box again! There was only 1550 of these cars made and there was 50K GN's made, go figure!
 
I wonder why there was not more advertisement for these cars. Maybe Pontiac figured they'd sell all 1550 easy so didn't bother with advertising.??
 
jarredsoon said:
I wonder why there was not more advertisement for these cars. Maybe Pontiac figured they'd sell all 1550 easy so didn't bother with advertising.??
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Hi Jarred,

They actually lost 3K per car. There was big plans, one of them was numbering the cars but, they ran out of money. I've read a post about a person having a drop top but there was only one made and it was an 'after market' car. The car was modified by a company that did this mod on cars but it wasn't done by PAS. It was done by request by the head of PAS for his personal car. All three of the principle people in PAS got a custom car. The man that know's all about this is Rich Vant' Hoff but he got out of the TTA hobby several years back. I would say that Jan knows about this also. I did have the privilege to drive it and tune it. It did have some different stuff. I also had the privilege to see Milton Robson's museum and car collection. UNBELIEVABLE!
 
89icbm said:
I thought Jan would step in on this but, these cars were going for over 40K when they were first put on the market. The dealers were trying to capitalize on the car but it didn't work. I could have bought a Ferrari for that much. These cars were not marketed well all and there was no plebiscite save a few magazine stories.
I'll jump on my soap box again! There was only 1550 of these cars made and there was 50K GN's made, go figure!
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The only employee discount (that I'm aware of) would be the festival cars being sold to emplyees at a discount and possibly some of them were sold through the dealer channel ... but $24k sounds like what the used festival cars where sold at.
 
89icbm said:
Hi Jarred,

They actually lost 3K per car. There was big plans, one of them was numbering the cars but, they ran out of money. I've read a post about a person having a drop top but there was only one made and it was an 'after market' car. The car was modified by a company that did this mod on cars but it wasn't done by PAS. It was done by request by the head of PAS for his personal car. All three of the principle people in PAS got a custom car. The man that know's all about this is Rich Vant' Hoff but he got out of the TTA hobby several years back. I would say that Jan knows about this also. I did have the privilege to drive it and tune it. It did have some different stuff. I also had the privilege to see Milton Robson's museum and car collection. UNBELIEVABLE!
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Jeff did have his personal car, one of the 5 pilots, converted by ASC .. same company that converted the other TTA (and actually long before Jeff's TTA where sent to ASC) ... also rumours that a 3rd one got converted but so far no-one seen (or could provide) and eveidence that one do exist (according to ASCs records only two TTA VINs where ever converted in 1989).
 
Jan Larsson said:
Jeff did have his personal car, one of the 5 pilots, converted by ASC .. same company that converted the other TTA (and actually long before Jeff's TTA where sent to ASC) ... also rumours that a 3rd one got converted but so far no-one seen (or could provide) and eveidence that one do exist (according to ASCs records only two TTA VINs where ever converted in 1989).
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Hi Jan, how are you? Good I hope!

I knew you would know about this. The second drop top was a definite buyer request. I also know of only two drop tops but the second one was done after purchase. I have never met Jeff Bexall (spelling) but I did meet Scott Kelley. Woodward was a blast! I actually brought Texas chilli (I made) and Lynn Brown and I smuggled in some great Tequilla and Texas beer, and I mean real Texas beer.
This old Irisher hopes to meet you some day!
 
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