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Weatherstripping?

TTAGUY

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Guys I need a whole weatherstripping kit. I see Hawks got them, but a bit high on the price, and I found a kit on Ebay, for half that price. I'm just looking to hear you guys that replaced your weatherstripping.

Where did you get it from? How is the quality? Would you buy from them again? I'm installing the new windshield on Thrusday, and need the weatherstripping soon.

Thanks,
Marcel
 
Cant comment for the TTA, but we got the complete door kit (OER-not OEM) from Classic Industries for the MSE. The appearance seems to look correct. The fit is really tight (meaning at first you really have to slam to door to get it shut), but after it heats up a bit and has closed and opened several dozen times it is much better.
 
Guys I need a whole weatherstripping kit. I see Hawks got them, but a bit high on the price, and I found a kit on Ebay, for half that price. I'm just looking to hear you guys that replaced your weatherstripping.

Where did you get it from? How is the quality? Would you buy from them again? I'm installing the new windshield on Thrusday, and need the weatherstripping soon.

Thanks,
Marcel


As far as the outside strip around the windshield, I got that from Classic Ind. It fits well with no problem.

On the doors I use Soffseal door seals and I put new inner and outer window felts at the top of the door that I got from 1aauto.com. They all fit great. Door seals themselves were not from 1aauto.com just the felts.

I got a complete kit for the t-tops from Hawks, that is still in the box, the only thing that I installed from the kit was the plastic drip rails for the t-tops that came with the kit. The drip rails fit well.

Still got the original t-top seals on my car, no hurry to change them. Could be a future project.

I also picked up a Soffseal seal for the hatch area, got that from a vendor at the spring turkey run in Daytona Florida. May install it later, but don't need it now.:cowboy:
 
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I just did all the seals on my 82. I will give you a rundown of what I used.
For the t tops I used the Soffseal kit. I got it from Summit for about 225 bucks. I think it fit good. It is definitely a bit thicker then original. I would stay away from OER (the Hawks kit) because I haven't heard too many good things about it. The other alternatives would be Metro or GM. Metro fits kind of like the Soffseal kit - a bit thicker then original. The GM seals are the most expensive. I never had luck with the originals so I tried something different. I think it worked out for me. Be prepared to do plenty of window adjustments with an aftermarket kit as the extra thickness throws everything off. Here is a pic of the Soffseal installed.
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For the door seals I used a little known brand - Fairchild. They are sold by Rock Auto and JC Whitney. I took a shot because all of the other brands are missing the plastic inserts that are molded into the ends where the weatherstrip screws to the body of the car. I have to say, I was very happy with them. They have the molded inserts and fit great. The plastic retainers that go around the door all fit properly and are spaced correctly.
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For the outer window sweeps I bought original GM. Thirdgen Ranch sells them for a reasonable price and I did not want to take a chance on the aftermarket ones since I wasn't sure if they had the thick added pieces of felt on them like the originals. I wasn't all that impressed with them as some of the holes did not line up and I had to make some new holes.
For the cowl gasket I used Soffseal and, even though it looked original, I was a bit disappointed with it because it did not have the retaining pins installed. I had to add those by lining it up with my old one. Metro sells one with the pins already installed.

For the drip edges on the t tops I bought the rubber ones from 1A Auto. I liked them and they look good. The only trouble is, they are molded a bit too thick on the inside corner and it forces the outer edge away from the t top. It came with double sided tape to install it, but the tape keeps pulling away from the top because of this.
I called 1A about it and they credited me back what I paid so I can buy the plastic ones. I have the plastic ones but I haven't installed them. To tell you the truth - I think the rubber ones look nicer. The plastic ones look a bit cheesy.
This is the rubber drip edge installed on the t top.
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This is how they look on the car. You can see the middle is sagging a bit. This is also due to the fact that the gaskets are very thick on the ends and push up on the drip edge. The Soffseal gutters molded into them are very thick. After I took this pic I adjusted the window height so that the t top weatherstrip isn't getting compressed as much.
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For the hatch I used the Metro hatch seal. It was OK, but is not molded exactly like the original. I think Metro uses a general weatherstrip cut to size that also fits trunks. The problem is, the original hatch weatherstrip is a little thicker on the outside edge to ensure contact with the hatch glass. On the sides of the glass, the contact is not made with the top of the gasket, it is made with the side of it. So there is a spot on my car where the gasket is not being compressed when the window is closed. I never had this problem with the original.

The window triangles are made by Soffseal. I think they fit good.
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OH - BTW - I just wanted to give you a word of advice concerning the weatherstrip adhesive. It will take paint off. Just be careful where you put it. I lifted a spot on the rim around the t tops when I tried to clean it off. Not too happy about that. Tape your edges and be careful with the glue on your freshly painted car.

The other day I got a true test of the t top weatherstrip - I had the car on jack stands and got caught in heavy rain. I had no leaks. I was pretty happy about that.
I think most people have problems with the t top weatherstrip due to improper installation. Do some research before you tackle it. Here is a good thread over on TGO:
Who has done ttop weatherstripping? Questions... - Third Generation F-Body Message Boards

I also like this Youtube video that was made by a TGO member:
Installing new T-Top seals on a Third Generation F-Body Firebird / Camaro - YouTube
 
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Thanks guys/gals for all your help, much appreciated. 8289ta thanks for that info thats what I was looking for, someone with another project that went through the rough. I was wanting a kit, but looks like buying from different vendors is the way to go. That was a good walk through of information, thanks again.
 
I have the original T top weather stripping, came in two long boxes, but have no idea what else I might need to have it installed. Also, who do I take the car too? I also need the right hand and left hand door weather stripping - what would be the best place to get it?

Any help greatly appreciated. Unfortunately, I have to depend on someone who works on cars to do this. How do you protect the interior to have this done and the paint?

Appreciate any help.
 
thanks for the info in this thread. i plan to start replacing some of my seals that are falling apart (ttop drip edges and door seals).
 
I used all GM 2nd design stuff including the updated plastic t-top drip rails and 91-92 1 piece window triangles.
My factory rubber drip rails were pulling out of the front and rear of the ttop when it was only 2yrs old. They were hanging down so bad, they would get stuck in the glass when I would close the door. The plastic drip edge has been holding the correct shape for 18yrs or so now. (repainted car that long ago)

There is a 1st design and 2nd design to the GM ttop seals.

I'm going to take a look at the Fairchild door seals for some of my other cars, nice price and look like a nice piece.
 
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