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Roller rockers
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I thank you Sir! That is a stage 1 block also. If you noticed, I had the lifter valley polished for oil return and put screens over the return holes. I've spent a lot of time, effort and money on this hot rod but, what's new about that right! I do everything myself with the exception of the short block. I don't own a machine shop.
Thanks Jason,
If anyone want's to know what I did and how I did it I have no problem telling them how. I've done other stuff, some worked and some didn't but, if you go you know! If you don't go you'll never know!
WS6
Stay thirsty my friends
Hi Frank,
I've seen these posted over at TB and I meant to ask you then, but the screens over oil returns, is that to keep errant gasket material from finding it's way into the pick up I assume?
If so,do you think there is any chance that may impede oil return and maybe create an oil starvation issue?
Rich
I've seen these posted over at TB and I meant to ask you then, but the screens over oil returns, is that to keep errant gasket material from finding it's way into the pick up I assume?
If so,do you think there is any chance that may impede oil return and maybe create an oil starvation issue?
Rich
Hi Rich,
The screens are there to keep anything from getting into the bottom end and causing more problems than you already have. There is no issue with the oiling, the cam gets plenty of oil. Look at a 109 block, there's only six 3/4" holes in the lifter valley. I think if you look, you will see more open area for drain back than a 109 block, even with the screens. This is a common practice with race motors.
Jeez! Am I on trial here or what? I did't kill any body or break any laws that I know about. I just came up with the roller rocker set up long before the guy on TB and Harland Sharp.
To answer your questions, the screen is a fine mesh metal and it is epoxied in.
I said I would answer questions on the rocker arm set up, I didn't realize I would be given the 3rd degree by a TB 'if you don't do things our way you're wrong' lackey.
Who is claiming that?
I don't see that anywhere in this thread? DontKnow:
If they are pm'ing you tell them to screw off. Grow the balls to post.
jarredsoon
Gold Member
I was Wondering how those screens were attached too.
Hey! No problem Rich. I apologize. I watched the duels last night and I'm afraid I over medicated myself with single malt scotch and I get fired up and cop that typical Irish attitude.
I'm more than happy to answer any questions that I can. I forgot to tell you that this is a kit which can be purchased at speed shops. It won't stop main bearing grit, it's for stopping large pieces from getting into the crank area.
You're right Jason! My response was out of line and the last thing I want to do is make enemies.
:cheers:
72firebird
Super Moderator
You don't have to worry about people on here attacking you on here, it's a very tight community. We just pick on Joe since it's easy and fun.
With that said, I wouldn't use the screens on your return. Instead, I would buy an earth magnet(s) to stick your oil pan to attract any metal shavings. Besides for that you don't have anything to worry about, the pickup screen will filter it fine.
With that said, I wouldn't use the screens on your return. Instead, I would buy an earth magnet(s) to stick your oil pan to attract any metal shavings. Besides for that you don't have anything to worry about, the pickup screen will filter it fine.
With that said, I wouldn't use the screens on your return. Instead, I would buy an earth magnet(s) to stick your oil pan to attract any metal shavings. Besides for that you don't have anything to worry about, the pickup screen will filter it fine.[/QUOTE]
Hi Jared,
I've had the screens since 2006 and I've had the magnets on the motor and tranny since 2002. This ain't my first rodeo pardner but, I thank you for your input. The screens are for large chunks that may not be ferrous and could cause damage to the bottom end. It's true that with a 109 block it would be hard to pass large pieces thru those 3/4" holes but, it can happen. The return/feed holes in my block are much bigger than that and could easily pass an entire lifter thru.
Hi Jared,
I've had the screens since 2006 and I've had the magnets on the motor and tranny since 2002. This ain't my first rodeo pardner but, I thank you for your input. The screens are for large chunks that may not be ferrous and could cause damage to the bottom end. It's true that with a 109 block it would be hard to pass large pieces thru those 3/4" holes but, it can happen. The return/feed holes in my block are much bigger than that and could easily pass an entire lifter thru.
72firebird
Super Moderator
my point was nothing goes through the bottom end without going through the oil pickup, all motors are like this. If anything is going to make a motor fail it's a couple fine pieces of metal which find their way through the pickup screen, which is very rare. What's going to drop from the top? Heck I had a friend with an LT1 who had the self centering rockers who decided to just let go and pushed the bearing caps out and let the rollers float their way down through the motor. We pulled out most of the rollers from the head, but we couldn't account for all of them. We tested them with a stock LT1 pickup screen and no matter the orientation they couldn't make it through the screen. So we stuck a couple magnets to the pan and it's been putting down 600+ easily ever since.
My point is, you're adding another place to clog. The screen on the pickup is fine enough to do all the filtering. Since it's a vertical feed the chance of clogging is slim. Blocking a return passage will gather stuff, while the openings are larger, things naturally flow over the screen. It's going to be easier to plug the screen you installed, who cares if some gasket material makes it into the pan, you don't want it sitting on top of that screen material blocking the return though.
TTA850
Well-Known Member
Looks good, that is absolutly what hot rodding is all about :thumbup:
As for who did them first I think Razor did a set for his car in early 2004, IDK of anyone doing a set for TTA heads before then. I know it was after I saw his set that I contacted Harland Sharp and sent him a head and valve cover to make a set for me which we had done late in that year and running for the 2005 season
Looks good, that is absolutly what hot rodding is all about :thumbup:
As for who did them first I think Razor did a set for his car in early 2004, IDK of anyone doing a set for TTA heads before then. I know it was after I saw his set that I contacted Harland Sharp and sent him a head and valve cover to make a set for me which we had done late in that year and running for the 2005 season
Hi TTA850,
Thank you for your comment. You may be right about the date. I do remember talking to Julio about this. Actually, I put the stage 1 motor in my car in 2006. I had the rollers several years before that, I'm just not clear on when I put them in but, it really don't matter. There's a lot of us that come up with ideas. I also remember talking to Julio in 2002 at Bristol about his idea of the alky kit, well, I think that's right. It was the last year of the BOP nationals and I was already putting the rockers in. Who really cares? The point is, it can be done! It really don't matter who gets credit, now does it.
And the best part is I can now call Harland Sharp and order a set.....:thumbup:
Hi Jason,
I would have to say ABSOLUTELY! I've looked at their product and they are very nice. I would buy another set of stock rocker bolts if you plan on selling the car. you never know how much of a purist you are selling to. I will never sell 1231, I am going to leave it to my son. Of course, I don't know what he will do with it but I'll be dead so it don't matter.:yes: I just hope he leaves it to his son and so on. Again, I would have to say, go for the Harland Sharps. My set up was about $350 but when you can go and blow, go for it!:bye1:In stall them and "Kick thu Tires and Light thu Fires".
Ha! I bet you weren't expecting this response!:cowboy:
I would have to say ABSOLUTELY! I've looked at their product and they are very nice. I would buy another set of stock rocker bolts if you plan on selling the car. you never know how much of a purist you are selling to. I will never sell 1231, I am going to leave it to my son. Of course, I don't know what he will do with it but I'll be dead so it don't matter.:yes: I just hope he leaves it to his son and so on. Again, I would have to say, go for the Harland Sharps. My set up was about $350 but when you can go and blow, go for it!:bye1:In stall them and "Kick thu Tires and Light thu Fires".
Ha! I bet you weren't expecting this response!:cowboy:
